Comments on: Living In Harmony http://timkadlec.com/2008/08/living-in-harmony/ A Wisconsin based web developer writing about the web. Sat, 21 Jan 2012 04:29:25 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: dfs design www http://timkadlec.com/2008/08/living-in-harmony/comment-page-1/#comment-101 dfs design www Thu, 23 Oct 2008 00:00:00 +0000 http://localhost/1969/12/living-in-harmony/#comment-101 hmm interesting, coments too hmm interesting, coments too

]]> By: dfs design www http://timkadlec.com/2008/08/living-in-harmony/comment-page-1/#comment-49946 dfs design www Thu, 23 Oct 2008 00:00:00 +0000 http://localhost/1969/12/living-in-harmony/#comment-49946 hmm interesting, coments too hmm interesting, coments too

]]> By: Jordan http://timkadlec.com/2008/08/living-in-harmony/comment-page-1/#comment-100 Jordan Mon, 08 Sep 2008 00:00:00 +0000 http://localhost/1969/12/living-in-harmony/#comment-100 Hey Tim,<br /><br />I found this article on IBM's site that might be worth checking out. They describe some of the new elements that the W3C is working on. Like they said, its not set in stone yet but the stuff they're thinking about is pretty cool and it should make life a lot easier.<br /><br />The article is at <a href='http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/library/x-html5/'>http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/library/x-html5/</a> Hey Tim,

I found this article on IBM’s site that might be worth checking out. They describe some of the new elements that the W3C is working on. Like they said, its not set in stone yet but the stuff they’re thinking about is pretty cool and it should make life a lot easier.

The article is at http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/library/x-html5/

]]> By: Jordan http://timkadlec.com/2008/08/living-in-harmony/comment-page-1/#comment-49945 Jordan Mon, 08 Sep 2008 00:00:00 +0000 http://localhost/1969/12/living-in-harmony/#comment-49945 Hey Tim,I found this article on IBM's site that might be worth checking out. They describe some of the new elements that the W3C is working on. Like they said, its not set in stone yet but the stuff they're thinking about is pretty cool and it should make life a lot easier.The article is at <a href='http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/library/x-html5/' rel="nofollow">http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/library/x-html5/</a> Hey Tim,I found this article on IBM’s site that might be worth checking out. They describe some of the new elements that the W3C is working on. Like they said, its not set in stone yet but the stuff they’re thinking about is pretty cool and it should make life a lot easier.The article is at http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/library/x-html5/

]]> By: Jordan http://timkadlec.com/2008/08/living-in-harmony/comment-page-1/#comment-98 Jordan Thu, 28 Aug 2008 00:00:00 +0000 http://localhost/1969/12/living-in-harmony/#comment-98 This all sounds exciting but I wonder how long it will before its mainstream and supported by all the major browsers. Do you think MS will actually conform IE to the standards that the other browsers set in place? This all sounds exciting but I wonder how long it will before its mainstream and supported by all the major browsers. Do you think MS will actually conform IE to the standards that the other browsers set in place?

]]> By: Tim Kadlec http://timkadlec.com/2008/08/living-in-harmony/comment-page-1/#comment-99 Tim Kadlec Thu, 28 Aug 2008 00:00:00 +0000 http://localhost/1969/12/living-in-harmony/#comment-99 @Jordan - When we talk about how quick it becomes mainstream and supported by all major browsers, it really depends on the feature in question. Since a lot of the spec is based on existing implementations, those features have a good chance of being 'mainstream' rather quickly. Like I mentioned above, getters and setters for example, are already implemented by everyone except IE.<br /><br />As for whether or not IE will play along...I for one am feeling pretty good about that. I think IE8, while far from perfect, is a huge step in the right direction for MS. There is a definite effort being made to drastically improve their standards support. They have a long way to go (I believe they're scoring about 20% on the ACID 3 Test as of IE8 beta v2), but there are noticeable improvements in CSS support, and new features in JS (DOM storage, Selectors API).<br /><br />So I guess, yes, they'll conform with the standards, the only question is how quickly. It will take some time, but I am hopeful it will be quicker than people may think. @Jordan – When we talk about how quick it becomes mainstream and supported by all major browsers, it really depends on the feature in question. Since a lot of the spec is based on existing implementations, those features have a good chance of being ‘mainstream’ rather quickly. Like I mentioned above, getters and setters for example, are already implemented by everyone except IE.

As for whether or not IE will play along…I for one am feeling pretty good about that. I think IE8, while far from perfect, is a huge step in the right direction for MS. There is a definite effort being made to drastically improve their standards support. They have a long way to go (I believe they’re scoring about 20% on the ACID 3 Test as of IE8 beta v2), but there are noticeable improvements in CSS support, and new features in JS (DOM storage, Selectors API).

So I guess, yes, they’ll conform with the standards, the only question is how quickly. It will take some time, but I am hopeful it will be quicker than people may think.

]]> By: Jordan http://timkadlec.com/2008/08/living-in-harmony/comment-page-1/#comment-49943 Jordan Thu, 28 Aug 2008 00:00:00 +0000 http://localhost/1969/12/living-in-harmony/#comment-49943 This all sounds exciting but I wonder how long it will before its mainstream and supported by all the major browsers. Do you think MS will actually conform IE to the standards that the other browsers set in place? This all sounds exciting but I wonder how long it will before its mainstream and supported by all the major browsers. Do you think MS will actually conform IE to the standards that the other browsers set in place?

]]> By: Tim Kadlec http://timkadlec.com/2008/08/living-in-harmony/comment-page-1/#comment-49944 Tim Kadlec Thu, 28 Aug 2008 00:00:00 +0000 http://localhost/1969/12/living-in-harmony/#comment-49944 @Jordan - When we talk about how quick it becomes mainstream and supported by all major browsers, it really depends on the feature in question. Since a lot of the spec is based on existing implementations, those features have a good chance of being 'mainstream' rather quickly. Like I mentioned above, getters and setters for example, are already implemented by everyone except IE.As for whether or not IE will play along...I for one am feeling pretty good about that. I think IE8, while far from perfect, is a huge step in the right direction for MS. There is a definite effort being made to drastically improve their standards support. They have a long way to go (I believe they're scoring about 20% on the ACID 3 Test as of IE8 beta v2), but there are noticeable improvements in CSS support, and new features in JS (DOM storage, Selectors API).So I guess, yes, they'll conform with the standards, the only question is how quickly. It will take some time, but I am hopeful it will be quicker than people may think. @Jordan – When we talk about how quick it becomes mainstream and supported by all major browsers, it really depends on the feature in question. Since a lot of the spec is based on existing implementations, those features have a good chance of being ‘mainstream’ rather quickly. Like I mentioned above, getters and setters for example, are already implemented by everyone except IE.As for whether or not IE will play along…I for one am feeling pretty good about that. I think IE8, while far from perfect, is a huge step in the right direction for MS. There is a definite effort being made to drastically improve their standards support. They have a long way to go (I believe they’re scoring about 20% on the ACID 3 Test as of IE8 beta v2), but there are noticeable improvements in CSS support, and new features in JS (DOM storage, Selectors API).So I guess, yes, they’ll conform with the standards, the only question is how quickly. It will take some time, but I am hopeful it will be quicker than people may think.

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